Help me save my bonsai!

topic posted Tue, May 8, 2007 - 1:06 PM by  Showing
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Hello everyone,

I'm new to this tribe and new to bonsai care. I've had this for about 5 months now, and it's all dried and sorry looking. What should I do? Not even sure what kind of bonsai it is (it was a gift). I've been watering it weekly, but the last few, about twice a week, as well as misting the leaves. But alas, to no avail. Leaves snap right off if I just touch it. Can it be salvaged? Here's a picture of it (it's actually alot more yellow than the picture lets on).
www.showingon.com/images/bonsai.jpg

Thanks so much!
-Showing
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Showing
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  • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

    Tue, May 8, 2007 - 2:35 PM
    Hi showing,- if its dry, you need to water!

    I notice also you have it in full sun.. You might like to chose a north facing position, outdoors is better too..

    But all that has become too dry will be dead..

    If it were mine, I'd trim plenty of the dead material off, but maybe not all, as a bonsai is permitted to imitate nature and a tree in nature will also have dead branches, right?

    In Japan, the best Bonsai I have seen are waterered daily by being gently dunked (up to the soil level) in big barrels of rain water.
    Avoid tap water because of chemicals or excessive lime content..
    • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

      Tue, May 8, 2007 - 3:12 PM
      yes definitely water it more and get it out of the direct sun. Place it in a spot that gets some sun and some shade throughout the day.
      • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

        Tue, May 8, 2007 - 3:59 PM
        Thanks Jana and BB for the tips! I only have these south-facing windows in my tiny studio, but there isn't direct sunlight the entire day. I had no idea they were so senstiive to the water. As I'm trimming the dead leaves, it appears I'll be trimming the entire tree *sniff*. All so dry and prickly. Does anyone know the TYPE of bonsai this is? I'd love to be able to start over with another one, and I like how it looks very much.

        Thanks again!
        -Showing
        • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

          Mon, May 14, 2007 - 4:25 PM
          This looks like a juniper to me as well from the picture. If I had to guess I would say it is what's commonly known as a Chinese Juniper or a similar nursery variety.

          More info on bonsai cultivation of Junipers is here: www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGu...perus.html

          Junipers don't typically do well indoors as they require full sun (not filtered or shade). I have heard of people keeping certain Juniper species indoors but if they do survive it would take meticulous care and they would likely not thrive and their growth would slow down. Putting the tree next to the window might seem like a good solution but in fact it kills a lot of bonsai because on a hot day all the sunlight is focused through the window and you will burn the foliage, and stress the tree.

          If you want an indoor bonsai you should find a species that works well indoors like a ficus. I would say probably 9 out of 10 people that get bonsai as a present will do the exact same thing that you did and put it indoors by a window or something like that and are disappointed by the results. The fact of the matter is that store bought bonsai (affectionately known as "mall-sai" by bonsai people) are often already severely stressed, diseased, or even dead when they are bought, even if they are still green. It may just have taken 4 months to see the results on a species like a juniper.

          If you can put this tree or another juniper out on a balcony or fire escape or put up something like a window box (make sure you strap the pot down with wire or something like that so that it doesn't go flying if a good breeze hits it) that would be your best bet.

          Some day commercial nurseries will find a good bonsai species you can cultivate happily on a window in a studio and water it once a month for people like us in the bay area who are busy and have nowhere to put an outdoor tree. Until then your choice is pretty much either make use of whatever outside space you can or get a houseplant. Some folks have done amazing things with a ficus or schefflera though, don't get me wrong.
  • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

    Tue, May 8, 2007 - 5:36 PM
    a watering trick to help saturate the soil is to top off the pot with ice cubes - they melt slowly into the dried out soil
    • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

      Fri, May 18, 2007 - 1:49 AM
      doesn't ice freeze the plants? thats interesting idea though i would use it if i wasn't too worried about freezing it
      • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

        Fri, May 18, 2007 - 9:16 AM
        no ice does not freeze the plants!!!
        don't worry ~ all 36 that I have have been watered with this method over the last decade and they are gorgeous. I'm not advocating burying the thing in a mountain of ice, mind you, just fill the pot on top of the soil. most ambient air temperatures will slowly melt the ice into the very dry soil, as opposed to water just flowing out the pot if you watered a very dry bonsai.
  • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

    Mon, May 14, 2007 - 4:40 PM
    Your profile says you are in Oakland, if you are interested in trying again with bonsai there are a couple of great resources in the area. #1 on my list would be Grove Way Bonsai Nursery in Hayward. www.yamatobonsaiclub.org/01_nu....html. Disclaimer: I am a member of the Yamato Bonsai Club and the owner of Grove Way is our sensei. I would recommend them even if I never joined though and I guarantee you will be amazed by the trees at the nursery. Call ahead to make sure they are open. If you want some tips you can bring the tree you have now in and Johnny is always willing to give advice (though the advice may be not to waste anymore time on a lost cause).

    Another place I frequently visit is Dwight Way Nursery in Berkeley: www.yabusakisdwightwaynursery.com/. They have lots of starter bonsai and some supplies as well.

    Don't get discouraged if this tree dies, I don't know anyone who still has the first bonsai tree they owned, it's a learning process. On the other hand there's no reason you can't pluck all the dead leaves off, put the tree outside or give it to a friend with a yard, water it regularly (don't overwater it, only add water when the soil 1 inch under the top of the surface is dry), and let nature take its course and the tree may very well come back. When you get the hang of it bonsai can be fun and even addictive so I suggest you give it a shot.
    • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

      Mon, May 14, 2007 - 5:21 PM
      Hi Noah,

      Thanks for all the wonderful insights. Nice to hear that I'm a boat with alot of other people. Thanks for the great links on where to find more info; I should update my profile to show I'm in San Francisco now, but hey, I go to the East Bay alot still. In any case, I do want to be a much better Bonsai Mommy next time.

      Thanks!
      -Showing
      • Re: Help me save my bonsai!

        Thu, May 24, 2007 - 1:01 PM
        That looks like one of those Home Depot style bonsai. Check to see if those rocks are glued together. If they are the first thing to do is remove them. A lot of those department store trees have the rocks like that to keep moisture in during shipping, but the problem with it is that when you water it the water doesn't get through it to the plant.

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